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Jessica wrote:
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READ MY POST!!

"Name me 5 please. 5 animals that you know for sure the world could live without and no other animal would die or change because of that."

Wouldn't they have to change?? They would have to adapt themselves , wouldn't they? just saying...


Err, relevance? Of course things would change, but that wouldn't necessarily make it bad. I focused on the actual argument at hand.

The argument at hand was to find 5 animals that if they were wiped out wouldn't kill us, or change the world, you gave a good answer to why it won't kill us, now satisfy us with the why it won't change the world.
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No, you're entirely wrong. There are plenty of species that the world could live without.


- My original statement.

Name me 5 please. 5 animals that you know for sure the world could live without and no other animal would die or change because of that.


- His reply.

Now, could you please point out where I said the world wouldn't change? I actually specifically said in my counter-argument that the world WOULD change, multiple times. I said it wouldn't change significantly, but many species would have to learn to adapt and the world would therefore change.

So I have reached the conclusion that you have no idea what you're talking about, so shut up.
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Jessica wrote:
No, you're entirely wrong. There are plenty of species that the world could live without.


- My original statement.

Name me 5 please. 5 animals that you know for sure the world could live without and no other animal would die or change because of that.


- His reply.

Now, could you please point out where I said the world wouldn't change? I actually specifically said in my counter-argument that the world WOULD change, multiple times. I said it wouldn't change significantly, but many species would have to learn to adapt and the world would therefore change.

So I have reached the conclusion that you have no idea what you're talking about, so shut up.


JUST REPLY TO THE FUCKING QUESTION!!! Idiot
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He didn't ask a question, idiot.
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Sniffphlerz wrote:
Jeff'nesS wrote:Do you know what you're doing? You're just calling me names, once you don't have enough intelligence and arguments to go on . Also, nice job contradicting yourself you moron piece 'a shit.
By the way, I can see that you're a retarded uncivilized macho bitch wannabe: Just read what you wrote, so you're telling that you agree we eat too much meat but you eat too much meat yourself, becasue you're a complete retarde who can't control himself. Man, you're so sad, please stop posting.
Ouh and, if I can't do shit to stop you eating so much meat, then you can't do a fucking shit of what vegetarians eat, think or complain about, so you actually said shit right so far, you pathetic cunt.

I thought you had the brains to realize I was just exaggerating to show you how I don't really give a shit about my health. I don't mean 'oh, let's go eat McDonald's 24/7' but of course you were to stupid to understand. I never implied I eat to much meat by the way you fucking moron, I never said I did. Just agreeing that we as Americans in general eat too much meat. Also I don't give a shit what vegetarians eat and I don't want to stop them. I'm just saying all they are doing is let animals die, then complain. Looks like you're the one who's been calling me names over and over, ironic isn't it?

That was a retarded post (which was expected) by the way. Nice job.


I don't call names, I'm just telling the truth, also, you just keep saying the same shit over andover in every post if that is how you retarded people discuss then that's not my fault.
Ouh lets just see what you wrote the last post, shall we?
If you don't like myself eating too much meat you can't do anything

OMG, you actually said you eat too much meat, damn, you don't even know what you're writting...

I'm just saying all they are doing is let animals die, then complain.

Man, do you understand what you're saying? How the FUCK do you retarded moron think they are going to stop animals from being killed? Could you please explain me that? All they can fucking do is COMPLAIN and DON'T EAT MEAT!!! don't you get that they can't just tell people to stop killing animals?
What the fuck is wrong with you? Tell me please, what do you care about them complaining?
Now if you're going to post the same shit you just said the this post then please don't even reply, seriously, stop being a shit head.

Err, relevance? Of course things would change, but that wouldn't necessarily make it bad. I focused on the actual argument at hand.

No, you did not, I guess if you actually thought a little about this you would come to this conclusion:

I'll give you a eg:
Humans often play a role in initiating boom and bust cycles by wiping out the top predator. For example, after gray wolves were hunted to near extinction in the United States, deer, elk, and other wolf-fearing forest critters had free reign and reproduced willy-nilly, gobbling up the vegetation that other consumers also relied on for food, that would mean, less food for more animals, and it would actually unbalance the world and a lot of spicies could disapear. Well, I guess you didn't think about this, did you?
What have you learned today?
Removing a top predator can often alter the gentle balance of an entire ecosystem.
So you got an invalid argument, about that predator shit you were telling me.
Also, I asked you 5 spicies that wouldn't change the world or kill us in case they disapeared, that is what I asked.

Fuck off! The reason why vegetarians dont eat meat is because they dont like the idea of killing animals and eating them. I know it not gonna stop them killing them but I personly dont like the idea of killing them then eating them.

Man, stop being a prick, you're being retarded! Please. As I said above, if we didn't kill cows, we would alter the natural balance of the ecosystem. We gotta eat them, just not as offten as we actually do and we should also stop treating them like nothing, they have value, that's my point, we, as predators, are superior to them though.
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Olawdy! We've got a big pile of shit here!

I'll give you a eg:
Humans often play a role in initiating boom and bust cycles by wiping out the top predator. For example, after gray wolves were hunted to near extinction in the United States, deer, elk, and other wolf-fearing forest critters had free reign and reproduced willy-nilly, gobbling up the vegetation that other consumers also relied on for food, that would mean, less food for more animals, and it would actually unbalance the world and a lot of spicies could disapear. Well, I guess you didn't think about this, did you?


Right, can you please, PLEASE point out where I didn't acknowledge this? Can you please, PLEASE point out where I mentioned ANY of the above species? Can you please, PLEASE point out where I generalised all animals into one category so you would assume that me saying that certain species could go extinct and the world would proceed just fine meant that I was saying that there are animals out there that we couldn't live without? Because I KNOW THAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT. I never said that we could live without other animals, I said SPECIFIC animals. If you had actually READ what I had written then you wouldn't have to jump to your bullshit irrational assumptions, would you?

What have you learned today?


Well, today I've learned that you can't read worth a damn, and for some reason completely ignore everything I say and invent your own arguments for yourself to argue with. It's been a fun lesson, Mr. Paranoid Schizophrenic.

Removing a top predator can often alter the gentle balance of an entire ecosystem.
So you got an invalid argument, about that predator shit you were telling me.


Oh, what a coincidence! I was JUST thinking to myself: 'Oh, how can this guy make himself look even more retarded?', and then I read this! How wonderful! It's too bad that doesn't make my argument invalid, as IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING I FUCKING SAID.

Also, I asked you 5 spicies that wouldn't change the world in case they disapeared, that is what I asked.


Oh, are you serious? I've just spent a few minutes looking at this sentence looking for some hilarious sarcasm that I'm missing, but I really can't find it. Please.. please tell me this was a joke.

Name me 5 please. 5 animals that you know for sure the world could live without and no other animal would die or change because of that.


THAT is what you actually said. You didn't ask me for '5 spicies that wouldn't change the world in cas rthey disapeared', you asked me for five species of animal that I know for sure the world could LIVE WITHOUT. There is a SIGNIFICANT difference.

Honestly though, I'm going to let you off. I mean, to be fair, you do seem to be attempting to argue with multiple people at a time and I know how frustrating that can be. I normally wouldn't let people off who forget their original argument entirely, but I'll give you a free pass. So either get your shit together and realise what you're actually arguing, or focus on one argument at a time.

E - Actually, I just read through your above post and none of it makes any sense. You seem to be arguing with someone... who has the same viewpoint as you for the most part. I think you are just stupid. This is the Debate Area, it's one of the last sections of this forum that holds some scrap of intelligence, and you're not going to ruin it. If you don't get your shit together and actually start speaking some sense I'm going to report you.
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Jeff'ness, and especially MooMooRevenger, I hate you two so fucking much. You pair of mongoloid babies. You inarticulate, ineloquent retards. You disgustingly incompetent bints, you.

Jeff'ness, first of all, learn to fucking read. You say you're not against eating meat or killing animals, but that you're against causing unnecessary harm to animals. If you read back to my post, you may notice the little sentence saying that I'm not at all in favor of unnecessarily harming animals. If you then read everyone else's posts, you'd notice nobody ever said "hur dur lets torture animals". Maybe it's because I fucked your mom so hard that her kids came out retarded, or maybe you're just illiterate, but why the fuck are you arguing against a position nobody in the debate holds? Are you scared of reading, so you just assume someone holds a certain position?
Besides that, why the fuck are you too stupid to even remember your own arguments? I suspect it's because you're a moron. In fact I'm certain that's the cause to all of this.
And lastly, what's with the staggering hypocrisy in that post to sniffphlerz? First you accuse him of calling names and having no actual arguments, and then you call him a "moron piece 'a shit" (it's spelled of, by the way. Apparently you're still in your 'pretend to have a New York accent on the internet' phase. None too surprising given that you're childish as fuck) and attempt to argue against positions he never professed to hold. And poorly at that. Listen, fucknut, if you can't understand the debate at hand, don't try to engage in it.

I don't think I even need to point out why MooMooRevenger is a complete and utter cunt and an incompetent, fallacious retard who's wild flailing could not amount to a semi-coherent argument even after letting a team of the worlds leading linguists try to interpret it for us.

Christ, I came within an inch of banning you two permanently for this travesty against debates.
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MooMooRevenger wrote:Fuck off! The reason why vegetarians dont eat meat is because they dont like the idea of killing animals and eating them. I know it not gonna stop them killing them but I personly dont like the idea of killing them then eating them.

And how is this helpful? What is your point? I knew they don't like the idea and all, why are you saying?
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I think it's rather stupid, That decision won't actually save animal lives. However, if it's your wish to avoid meat then I won't complain about it, you're free to be as stubborn and close minded as you want , even if it's stupid.
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Xemozu wrote:I think it's rather stupid, That decision won't actually save animal lives. However, if it's your wish to avoid meat then I won't complain about it, you're free to be as stubborn and close minded as you want , even if it's stupid.

I think supporting the meat industry can actually slightly lessen the amount of animals killed, and calling people close minded because they dont eat a particular type of food is just stupid.
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hjaltithehun=HTH wrote:
Xemozu wrote:I think it's rather stupid, That decision won't actually save animal lives. However, if it's your wish to avoid meat then I won't complain about it, you're free to be as stubborn and close minded as you want , even if it's stupid.

I think supporting the meat industry can actually slightly lessen the amount of animals killed, and calling people close minded because they dont eat a particular type of food is just stupid.

How does supporting the meat industry slightly lessen the amount of animals being killed? If people boycotted it to the point that the business started to lose money, then they would probably lessen it, but if you are supporting it, you are giving them the "OK" to continue this, thus bringing us to them killing more and more animals instead of lessening it. I think you have it a bit backwards.
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hjaltithehun=HTH wrote:
Xemozu wrote:I think it's rather stupid, That decision won't actually save animal lives. However, if it's your wish to avoid meat then I won't complain about it, you're free to be as stubborn and close minded as you want , even if it's stupid.

I think supporting the meat industry can actually slightly lessen the amount of animals killed, and calling people close minded because they dont eat a particular type of food is just stupid.



I called them stubborn and close minded because most of them, if not all lack of any bearable argument that supports their posture, not because they "dislike" or don't eat a kind of food.
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Jeff'nesS wrote:Well, you do think your post are funny as hell, don't you? Well, they kinda are :D
Also, how could you have "fucked my mom" (as you claim) if you're 13 years-old dickless punk ass childish bitch that ain't got no pussy at all, not even from old women, ironic ain't it?
Look, I bet you're one of those fatty ass boys who everyone makes fun of(or made fun of, I don't know how old you are, 6? a half?) cuz you suck in every sport you've ever tried, and that's why you hate basketball, am I right?
Also, you actually said that you don't give fuck about them, and I said that I do give a fuck and that's my point the whole time.

Ouh and, I'm not from new york, why the fuck should I pretend a new york accent? Maybe you don't know but we speak like this all over US (I think), i'M NOT SPEAKING IN ANY PARTICULAR ACCENT.
Well, I know, that you're just keep posting over and over dissing me from now on, but I don't care cuz it's actually pretty funny to troll on you :D

Oh, for god's sake. He's not even trying to be funny, he's just showing you how all of your posts here have been filled with shit. I've been trying to prove you wrong but, as desperate as you are, would come up with nothing but insults. And if you're trying to troll Damon, you're doing it horribly wrong.

I'll leave the rest to you Damon.
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i cant live without meat...
i just dont understand why someone even wants to be a vegetarian!
stoopid: but its cruel to kill so many animals just because we like meat!
dear stupid, you know what lions do with antelopes? they eat their meat!!!
you know what snakes do with mice? they eat their meat!!!
you what wolves do with sheeps? THEY EAT THEIR F***ING MEAT!!!
mother nature wants us to eat other animals, cuz we are omnivore!!!
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