heres the psychology behind it. alien believers will notice the things that support their theory and not notice the things that dont. alien skeptics will do the same. because of this it is very hard to get solid evidence from eye witnesses which, most of the time, are the only source as videos like this are often bias.

what would normally be seen as something completely normal is often seen as something sinister if it supports the viewers theory.

Personally i believe alien life must exist considering how large the universe is, I just don't believe we're ever going to encounter it

Apostrophe's.
Anyway, I believe there is a large possibility, like Alca said.

There's no doubt in my mind that there is other life in the universe. Whether the sightings are legitimate or not is another matter.

yeah, but i found another video i forgot about.
it's about this sergeant person thing from the army, and his got active missiles or something, and he spots a flying saucer go past, and then all the missiles deactivate, when it goes past.
so they must have very, very advanced technology.
so, as you said skype, there will most deffinately be other life forms out there, and there might be somewhere out there in our solar system, with more advanced technology then us.

If aliens did exist, and if it were possible for them to traverse the universe in seconds imagine the weapons that they have and what they could do with them.

Alien's what? Anyway, I think an important thing to consider about aliens is how different from us they would likely be. This video does a pretty good job in my opinion



I don't doubt that some form of life exists out there; I just doubt we'll ever have a meaningful encounter with them. The odds say that if we find aliens, they'll either be too stupid for us to communicate with or too intelligent for us to understand. There's a very small range of intelligence where we''ll be able to learn anything from them, so hoping that aliens will give us all their technology or something seems a little silly.

That's why I don't believe most stories about alien sightings. I really doubt that aliens would even bother coming here, and I really doubt they would fly spaceships that operate in a nature familiar to us. It just seems like all alien stories involve the aliens being fairly similar to humans, and the odds of that are pretty damn low.

I guess I have another thing to add from the video. The example of communicating with a chimp using sign language is a pretty good analogy in my opinion. When you give a chimp basic messages, you can convey certain parts of our language. The chimp might be able to understand certain English words when they're put into sign language, but it's only a very small set of words. The chimp doesn't know the symbols necessary to learn quantum mechanics, right? It can only understand certain parts of our language.

Now extend that to aliens. Let's say we do find some aliens and they're much more intelligent than us. It's possible that they're intelligent enough to communicate with us by learning English or something, just like we learn how to communicate with chimps (and other animals) using symbols they understand. So even if the aliens did choose to communicate with us, what would it accomplish? Chances are, the majority of their superior intelligence would be lost to us in the translation to English. Just like a chimp can't understand ideas that can be understood in English but not in sign language, we probably won't be able to understand ideas that can be understood in some alien language but not in English. So EVEN IF the aliens did bother talking to us, we would probably learn nothing from it.

tl;dr yeah we might meet aliens, but if we meet them chances are nothing will happen

I don't really have an opinion one way or the other regarding aliens, but I do have a somewhat interesting story about them. In the late 70's my dad was a pilot for the U.S. Navy, flying a P3 and tracking various Russian planes and submarines. They were working with another P3 in the area, and they picked up a radar contact all of a sudden sort of in between the two planes, which were a good ways away from each other. The radar contact was following their movement, just a bit behind the two planes, then suddenly shot forward to a point in front of them and matched their speed again almost instantly, went back to where it was before with the same accelerating and decelerating, then just flew off super quickly.

They thought it was just a glitch with their radar, but the other plane had the exact same reading, and when they filed a report on it to their superiors, they hushed it up and never talked to them about it again. To this day, my dad doesn't know whether it was some sort of U.S. or Russian technology in the form of some sort of jet fighter, but he didn't know of any sort of plane that could go anywhere near as quickly as what this thing did.

There is a theory that the great pyramids were built by aliens, and if you look at them from the sky they aparently look like a runway. Now i beleive this to be true, because history teels us that the time it took the egyptians to build the pyramids was reletivley short, now i don't see it as physicaly possible that humans were able to move stones of that size in such a short time and seeign as the sheer amount of stones that were used to build the pyramids it would have taken decades to build even half a pyramid. This gives the impression that the egyptians had some help from beings with the ability to move large amounts of objects at once making it easier for the egypitians to build the pyramids.

Also egyptians mythology mentions a higher being or some god like entity that ruled over them and visited them, this is found in hyroglyph translations as well as inscriptions on some artifacts. I think this provides enough proof to show that aliens did exist and possibly still do.

I do believe some form of Alien Life must exist somewhere out there, there is no way with such an unfathomably large universe we would be the only planet harboring life.

I also believe however the likelihood of us ever interacting or meeting these species is very very slim, every has this idea of high tech Aliens and whatever but the truth is if there is anything out there, there is nothing to say they are any more developed than us, and could very easily be much much less developed as we are a very highly developed species already.

I also believe there is no way there is Aliens on the moon, at all, the moon is not a planet, and the moon is not going to harbor any form of life for any period of time, it just isn't built in a way that could support any life of any stages of development, there is no food, no sources of energy, and it is a very very harsh deadly environment (not the tranquil picture it seems to be quite often viewed as, do you think those craters formed naturally over time?).

According to the best evolutionary theory, life in this universe can only originate from a substance known as primordial soup. Primordial soup is a subsentence which the amino acids necessary for even the most basic forms of life to exist are present. But this substance is extremely rare, in terms of probability. It would have to be on a planet with the right conditions, but these planets are extremely rare. Just one planet existing in the visible universe is extremely unlikely. And even then, the probability of primordial soup forming on one of these planets is even more improbable.

But even with primordial soup present, it is still highly unlikely that life would arise from it. Several biologists have calculated that even if the entire visible universe had been filled with primordial soup, in the 13.7 billion years that our universe has existed, it would still be highly improbable that life would arise from it anywhere.

Still, seeing as the universe extends far beyond what is visible, it may be possible that there would be enough planets out there that surely some other planets could have life arise on them... but, would we be able to contact them? no.

The chances of even just one other planet with intelligent life of it existing in the visible universe is slim. The chances are millions of times more slim if we only count planets within the Local Cluster, the cluster of galaxies that are near our Milky way. But even then, if life did exist there, we would not be able to contact it.

The other galaxies are hundreds of millions of light years away, so it would take hundreds of millions of years just for a message from us to reach them, and the same time for their reply to make it back to us (if they existed, which as I already argued is unlikely). It would be even more unlikely for us to visit Aliens in any of these galaxies, as even if we could travel at the speed out light, millions of generations would pass before we made it there.

Now, when it comes to people claiming that Aliens have visited our planet, I get frustrated. The Aliens would have to be within out own Galaxy if they even wanted to know that there was a solar system here, and they'd have to be pretty close. Even if Aliens existed only 5000 light years away, it would take them 5000 years to travel here (assuming they could travel at the speed of light). Which would mean they'd need to be able to survive for that long, and would need a spaceship with enough energy and engine capacity to travel at the speed of light continuously. This spaceship would have to be huge, yet all the UFO sightings, people claim to see disc shapes clouds that are relatively small.. not capable of travelling such distances. Even then, the probability of Aliens existing 5000 Light years away are ridiculously small.. so I can't be bothered wasting my time with crackpot alien conspiracy theorists...

Now, when it comes to the apparent Alien involvement in Egypt, the only reason people claim that there were Aliens helping them is because people don't like to admit that the Egyptians had pulley systems. The thing is, Egyptians did in fact have pulley systems and fucktons of slaves to help build the pyramids. In their ancient drawings and hieroglyphics, you can see images of pulleys, and slaves. They moved the great blocks of stone by using a kinda of primitive caterpillar system, rolling they blocks of stone up ramps, and placing logs underneath them to roll and move them move smoother.

I've heard plenty of claims of "divine beings coming down from the sky who built the pyramids" from people on the internet and at school, but 99% of these people haven't actually checked the facts themselves. I myself know several people who have studied Egyptology extensively, and they've told me that the Pharaohs were seen as 'Gods' and that they orchestrated the building of the pyramids, but didn't actually take part in it themselves. So I don't know what these alien enthusiasts are talking about here. (also I think its strange that Aliens, if they exist, look pretty much exactly like humans with slightly elongated heads as these conspiracy theorists say they do)

In conclusion, I do not believe that Earth has ever been, or will ever be visited by life forms from outer space. I am somewhat agnostic about whether or not they exist elsewhere, very very far away in the furtherest corners of the visible universe, but it doesn't really matter to me whether or not they do. The chances of us ever being able to contact other forms of intelligent life ever are so slim that I cannot be bothered dreaming about it.

EDIT: Oh, and regarding worm holes. Stephen Hawking lost his bet with Rodger Penrose about whether or not worm holes could be used for travel (If they existed, that is). So there is no way i can see that Aliens could actually get to our planet. (much less get here alive)

Considering all the planets, galaxies, and solar systems out there, I don't see how Earth is unique. There are probably many planets in the "goldilocks zone" where liquid water exists, and with an atmosphere containing gases that can support life on that planet. And aliens traveling to Earth is absurd, it would take thousands of years, and traveling faster than light, is impossible and would make your bones about as thick as a toothpick.

OblivionFall wrote:Now, when it comes to people claiming that Aliens have visited our planet, I get frustrated. The Aliens would have to be within out own Galaxy if they even wanted to know that there was a solar system here, and they'd have to be pretty close. Even if Aliens existed only 5000 light years away, it would take them 5000 years to travel here (assuming they could travel at the speed of light). Which would mean they'd need to be able to survive for that long, and would need a spaceship with enough energy and engine capacity to travel at the speed of light continuously.

First off, do you have any idea how relativity works? If you approach the speed of light, your reference time frame slows down. If some species could travel near the speed of light (not saying they can, but you're taking this as a possibility) they wouldn't need to survive anywhere close to 5000 years to travel 5000 light years. Even with current human technology, the idea of time dilation gives us hope to travel much farther than we could using a constant time frame, and we can't travel anywhere close to the speed of light. If aliens actually had the ability to travel anywhere near the speed of light, travel time wouldn't be as big of a concern. I mean, if you look at THIS picture, you get a pretty good idea of how little time matters when you have the ability to travel anywhere near the speed of light. There are animals on earth that can live for up to 400 years, so if you put them on a spaceship going around 99% the speed of light, they could travel around 4000 light years before dying. That might sounds stupid, but the point is that even terrestrial animals could go a fucking long way if they're going fast enough. I'm not saying aliens have any chance of possessing this sort of technology, but you're making it sound like even if they did they couldn't get here, and that's just foolish.

OblivionFall wrote:EDIT: Oh, and regarding worm holes. Stephen Hawking lost his bet with Rodger Penrose about whether or not worm holes could be used for travel (If they existed, that is). So there is no way i can see that Aliens could actually get to our planet. (much less get here alive)

There is no evidence that wormholes can't exist. They're perfectly acceptable solutions to relativistic problems. The only real reason we can't explain how they're created is because they require negative mass and energy, and that's not intuitive/possible considering our current understanding of the universe. But if physics in the last 100 years has shown anything, it's that counter intuitive/impossible sounding things aren't necessarily impossible. So if some life existed with superior intelligence (big assumption, but whatever) what's to say they can't comprehend things like negative mass and energy? Those ideas elude us, but so did quantum mechanics for a long time. With the assumption that we can control negative mass, we have a fairly good idea of how to create a stable wormhole. They're not very confusing theoretically; they're just based on fundamental concepts that are beyond our current understanding. Discounting the possibility that aliens could possess a greater understanding of the universe than us is a little obtuse, and discounting the possibility of wormholes follows that.

I'm not saying I think there are aliens out there with space ships that travel 99.999% the speed of light and that they can hop through wormholes. It's just that your argument is a little general and has a few holes in it.

Well, it's estimated that there are 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the universe, and it's also estimated that most stars have at least one, if not more planets, so the number of planets is around 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. The chances of only one of those planets sustaining life would mean that there would have to be .0000000000000000000001% possibility of any one planet at any time sustaining life, and of course that number is no where near the actual estimate for planets that actually have the right conditions to sustain life. Out of the 50,000,000,000 planets in our own galaxy, around 500,000,000 are thought to be able to sustain life in the habitable zone. There are more than 100,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe. Do a bit of math and you get 50,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets that are capable of sustaining life, give or take a power of ten. There's a less than 1% chance of most planets that are in the habitable zone to sustain life, though that number increases and decreases based on the size and other factors pertaining the planet. There's no question about life not existing out there, just whether or not it has evolved to the same extent that we have, and I'm sure it has somewhere.

To find the probability of life existing on other planets, you need to take into consideration a huge variety of things. Most estimates fail to take into consideration a lot of things such as living conditions that might not be suitable for the average Earth born organism. A lot of new discoveries point towards the possibility that there are new suitable living conditions that we haven't thought of as possible for sustaining life before. Earth is also a relatively small planet, and the main factor regarding the probably of life existing is the habitability of a planet. Things like planet size, gravity, the sun's life time, the planet's life time, the number of moons, meteorite belts, nearby planets, etc. all factor into the result, and astronomers haven't yet gotten a good enough picture for most of these, so estimates are usually off.

We've barely even started looking for life. It would be extremely, extremely unlikely and absurd that we would find life in the few years that we have looked for it. Even so, there's a probability of life existing in our own solar system. There's evidence of water to have existed on Mars recently, and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn are believe to be able to support life bellow the surface in an underground ocean. In our own galaxy.

We are made of the most abundant elements in the entire universe. If you rank the elements that we are made up from most to least you'll see that they match the abundant elements in the universe exactly. It's not only us that exist in the universe, it's the universe that exists in us. We are all made of the same things. We are not special in any way and to say that we are the only living things in the entire universe is extremely egocentric and naive. The right conditions and materials to make life exist quite abundely when you take the size of the entire universe into consideration.

I still find it a bit mindblowing to think that there's a chance of things existing out there that might be living a life similar to things on this earth, or even to us. It's a pretty amazing feeling isn't it? A sort of belonging.