Are you guys debating as to which program Is superior or better preference wise? I sure hope It's the latter because there Is no way In hell pivot Is a superior program. I respect your points Oblivion, but things such as stick consistency and line tool flaws can all be mastered with time. Endo Is a great example of this.

The flash community will always be booming. With Terkoiz, Stone, Endo, Hyun, Jomm, Miccool and an endless array of animators whos talent knows no limits there's no sign of said community ever slowing down In the near future, or rather even the long run. As there's one very Important thing the pivot community lacks, and that's creativity. There have been very few moments where I've watched a pivot animation and acknowledged It for It's creativity. I have Indeed acknowledged the precision we can achieve movements wise, but little more than that.

Dancing with the devil and Into the jungle are In the small minority of animations that Inspire me In aspects other than movements.

Edit: And anything by Giffgiff ofcourse.

Nutcracker wrote:Are you guys debating as to which program Is superior or better preference wise?

No. The point of the thread is to encourage people to use other programs to enhance their animations. Not just Flash. I think Dead Throne might have got the impression this was a Flash vs Pivot thing. It is not.

@Darren
I was actually talking to Kroyo for the part when he said "why the hell are you using a '90's monitor "
I understand the youtube thingy.

Personally I agree with him. Working hard to get through the ranks is okay for a while but it soon gets boring. Working your ass off and then seeing your animation top of the portal, most plays, highest rating, most comments. The feeling would be awesome- it would sure as hell make me want to start again. It's another dynamic to the community.

I know this is not really on topic, but I used the line tool in Flash here with no problem: http://www.truploader.com/view/201639 (unfinished, rough, unedited, don't juuuddgee)
And here: http://www.truploader.com/view/663381 (same story)
Just as clean as Pivot and not much slower or less accurate to animate with.

As I have said, I completely agree. I get the impression many members are stubborn and unwilling to experiment. I don't have a problem with the white-background-black-stickfigure style (I'm as guilty as anyone), but I'd agree if it were said that their is a general lack of creativity on the forum. Combining Pivot with other software and a portal or something similar would allow for greater creativity and likely increase inspiration (and thus creativity). I don't animate much in Pivot anymore, but when I do I animate in dimensions that allow for greater resolutions. I also never save my .gifs at half size. I use the [tn=][/tn] tags.

Krustalien wrote:I know this is not really on topic, but I used the line tool in Flash here with no problem: http://www.truploader.com/view/201639 (unfinished, rough, unedited, don't juuuddgee)
And here: http://www.truploader.com/view/663381 (same story)
Just as clean as Pivot and not much slower or less accurate to animate with.

I'd love if you posted a tutorial on exactly how you did that. This kind of stuff is exactly what people apprehensive about going outside their comfort zone need to know.

Skype wrote:Personally I agree with him. Working hard to get through the ranks is okay for a while but it soon gets boring. Working your ass off and then seeing your animation top of the portal, most plays, highest rating, most comments. The feeling would be awesome- it would sure as hell make me want to start again. It's another dynamic to the community.

If all the staff were to agree that this was a good idea to have a portal, would the chances of it actually happening be too low? I think it would be awesome, and I'm sure the majority of the community would agree.

Chimaera wrote:wink)

Sweet.

Dante wrote:

Kroyo wrote:

Lympha wrote:, if you have a 10.1" monitor like me.

what the hell? a 10.1 inch monitor why the hell are you using a '90's monitor like Darren said we're in the generation that's far advance to what pivot was initially made for by what specs were available. It's been a good 10 years(rough estimate) that pivot has been out. In those 10 years we've gone from 10.1 inch monitors to 24 inch monitors.

Shut the hell up. Not everybody can afford a bigger and better monitor.
And I'm not really interested in animating anymore, since I haven't gone up from medium beginner for 1 and a half year, but this might be a good idea. It's a pain in the fucking ass to animate at bigger dimensions though.

My comment wasn't pointed towards you...I know people can't afford big screens...but you canbe reasonable alot of the screens with 15-17 in can bd bught for a merre $200-$400 range. I should of elaborated some more and stuff.

Kroyo wrote:alot of the screens with 15-17 in can bd bught for a merre $200-$400 range

Wow, those are expensive lol. I got my 22' monitor for 200 dollars. A 15-17 inch monitor can be bought for like 60 dollars nowadays. Lympha's problem is the rest of the computer too, not just the monitor. A netbook with a 10.1 inch screen is around 200 dollars, i.e. the same price as a decent sized monitor.

Darren wrote:

Krustalien wrote:I know this is not really on topic, but I used the line tool in Flash here with no problem: http://www.truploader.com/view/201639 (unfinished, rough, unedited, don't juuuddgee)
And here: http://www.truploader.com/view/663381 (same story)
Just as clean as Pivot and not much slower or less accurate to animate with.

I'd love if you posted a tutorial on exactly how you did that. This kind of stuff is exactly what people apprehensive about going outside their comfort zone need to know.

I agree. I've tried using the line tool but I can never seem to get it to work the way I feel it's suppose to. A tutorial would be excellent!

Darren wrote:

Kroyo wrote:alot of the screens with 15-17 in can bd bught for a merre $200-$400 range

Wow, those are expensive lol. I got my 22' monitor for 200 dollars. A 15-17 inch monitor can be bought for like 60 dollars nowadays. Lympha's problem is the rest of the computer too, not just the monitor. A netbook with a 10.1 inch screen is around 200 dollars, i.e. the same price as a decent sized monitor.

sorry I'm talking about laptops...not individual screens. sorry for the confusion...I really need to stop doing incomplete explanations.lol. but yeah I was just saying he can invest in $200-$300 laptop with a 17' screen or so.

@line tool discussion I had the problem with line tool for which I end up having lines merge at awkward points or did I do something wrong by not putting each line on a separate layer?

Kroyo wrote:

Darren wrote:

Kroyo wrote:alot of the screens with 15-17 in can bd bught for a merre $200-$400 range

Wow, those are expensive lol. I got my 22' monitor for 200 dollars. A 15-17 inch monitor can be bought for like 60 dollars nowadays. Lympha's problem is the rest of the computer too, not just the monitor. A netbook with a 10.1 inch screen is around 200 dollars, i.e. the same price as a decent sized monitor.

sorry I'm talking about laptops...not individual screens. sorry for the confusion...I really need to stop doing incomplete explanations.lol. but yeah I was just saying he can invest in $200-$300 laptop with a 17' screen or so.

@line tool discussion I had the problem with line tool for which I end up having lines merge at awkward points or did I do something wrong by not putting each line on a separate layer?

You left the snapping on.

Darren wrote:

Kroyo wrote:alot of the screens with 15-17 in can bd bught for a merre $200-$400 range

Wow, those are expensive lol. I got my 22' monitor for 200 dollars. A 15-17 inch monitor can be bought for like 60 dollars nowadays. Lympha's problem is the rest of the computer too, not just the monitor. A netbook with a 10.1 inch screen is around 200 dollars, i.e. the same price as a decent sized monitor.

I just buy my computers in fucking America...